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Now driveway companies, their business model is, we need to pour as many as we can for as cheaply as possible. Many driveway companies are pouring driveways for less than what we pay our concrete crew to pour, and that's before profit and overhead and it's because they go in there they tear it out and they pour the concrete. If they do any sort of reinforcement, it’s a wire mesh right, big sheets of wire mesh and wire mesh, which is what I tell the homeowner, wire mesh it’s like a clothes hanger, I can grab the clothes hangers I can bend it five times and it will snap.
Is a concrete patio or deck cheaper?
Research suggests that constructing a concrete patio is more cost effective than building a deck in terms of both initial expenditure and long-term maintenance costs. Specifically, a concrete patio costs approximately $4 per square foot, while a deck made from lower-cost pressure treated lumber is estimated to cost $6 per square foot.
So we put #3 rebar which is the thickness of the sharpie at 24 inch front center in all of our concrete, this is the rebar that can only be bent mechanically and it also takes mechanical cutters to be able to cut it. You can not bend it, you cannot break it. We do that in our driveways and we do it in our sidewalks well. So #3 rebar 24 inches on center in a grid it prevents the concrete when it does crack, because all concretes crack, so we try to tell it where to crack, so that when it does cracks, it keeps it from pulling apart and it keeps it from “shelfing” and it can’t ever pull apart or shelf right and so that's where our quality of driveway is much different than a regular company that does driveways.
How much does it cost to build a 20x20 concrete patio?
The cost of constructing a 20-foot by 20-foot concrete patio can vary significantly, ranging from $1,200 to $6,000. This cost includes both labor and materials, although further decorative finishes and colors can increase the overall price. However, it is possible to acquire better value per square foot on larger projects due to the economies of scale.
But when the homeowner goes with us we don't promote that to them because we can't compete with the driveway company because they're literally going in there, demoing it and repouring it the same day or the following day. We're gonna be there for 3-4 days. That's how much more it adds to do the rebar, plus the cost of the rebar. So that that's dollars per square foot, so when you got a company doing a driveway for $10 a square foot and then you have us coming in at $18 a square foot, the customer asks “why are we paying almost double”? Well, in 10 years, that driveways will need to be replaced or else it's going to look like your existing driveway looked.
Can you DIY concrete patio?
It is possible to construct an aesthetically pleasing concrete patio independently; however, it is important to ensure proper planning and preparation beforehand. To ensure a successful project, it is recommended to lay down the entire concrete in one go; alternatively, for larger patios, it is possible to divide the area into smaller, more manageable sections with the use of 2x4s.
In 10 years, our driveways will not look like that. There's a lot of other things that we do as well but what I'll tell a homeowner when they ask, hey do you also do driveways? I'll tell them “Absolutely, we're not competing with the normal driveway company but I can tell you this, if you tell them (the concrete company) that you want them to include everything that we're including, you're going to see that the price is going to be the same. The reason is, it's not that we charge more, it’s that we do more. They're just doing a lot less at the end of the day. But we all have the same overhead, we all have the same labor costs for the most part.
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